1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:22,920 I remember one night as a child, I was watching that movie, War of the Worlds. 2 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,720 It scared to live in daylights out of me. 3 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:33,800 The walls of all the spaceships, they were going around zapping people and houses. 4 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:39,040 My dad told me, son, that is just a movie. 5 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:44,080 He said things like that don't exist until one day. 6 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,600 Two local men confronted authorities with a rather bizarre story. 7 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,680 Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker told of a strange craft landing near their fishing 8 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,440 site and of being taken aboard by three unearthly creatures. 9 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:13,960 I said, now daddy tell me what happened that night. 10 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:19,760 He started telling me and all of a sudden I noticed he got tears in his eyes. 11 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,000 I said, what's the matter daddy? 12 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:29,160 He said, son, I've been scared in my lifetime, but I've never had anything scare me like 13 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,960 this before. 14 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:36,560 I was so afraid that they were going to take me away from here and they would never know 15 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:48,840 what happened to us. 16 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:56,800 On the evening of October 11th, 1973, Charlie Hickson and Calvin Parker were fishing on 17 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:02,080 a river and claimed to have had an otherworldly encounter. 18 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:07,520 For 50 years, many have asked, what really happened that night? 19 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:24,240 I love everything about Mississippi. 20 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:29,200 Sound of a train whistle, barks, root beer. 21 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,760 It's just a way of life, the way I was brought up. 22 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,260 We don't get in a hurry. 23 00:02:34,260 --> 00:02:38,800 It's just a way to live down here. 24 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:43,320 Dad and I moved to Pascagoula in 1969. 25 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:52,420 Pascagoula was a sleepy, small fishing village until the construction of a shipyard, Engle 26 00:02:52,420 --> 00:03:00,760 Shipbuilding began manufacturing destroyers for the US Navy back in the 50s, which required 27 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:06,360 workers and recruited workers from all over the state. 28 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,000 The crime rate was very low. 29 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:19,720 You could still, at that time, sleep with your windows up and your doors left open. 30 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,680 Daddy was my best friend. 31 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,640 We did a lot of fishing. 32 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:29,640 Daddy just knew how to catch fish and he used to make me so mad he'd be yanking them in 33 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:32,360 the boat and I wouldn't catch anything. 34 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:38,760 And I'd put my cork or throw it over beside him and I still wouldn't catch anything. 35 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,440 We used to go pick dewberries and all that kind of stuff. 36 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,480 We raised our own pigs and cows and we did it all. 37 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,640 We survived on our own. 38 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,600 Calvin and I went to school together. 39 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,040 We didn't live very far apart from each other. 40 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,120 He was 18 at the time, same age as me. 41 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,760 Calvin and his dad and my dad would all go camping. 42 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,840 We spent a lot of time together. 43 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,600 My dad helped get him a job down at one of the shipyards. 44 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,760 One day they decided to go fishing after work and that's how they ended up down on the 45 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:30,320 river and that's when everything happened. 46 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:37,600 I had just gotten a bite and I was reeling it in as I turned almost froze with fear. 47 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,400 Zipping sounds all I heard. 48 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:47,240 About 60 or 70 feet away some type of craft was approaching the ground. 49 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:52,600 He said this thing was sitting there above, it wasn't touching the ground, above the ground 50 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,240 and it had lights on it. 51 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,960 It seemed to just stop, just land. 52 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,560 All of a sudden it, uh, one end of it just opened up. 53 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,280 It seemed to hold me spellbound. 54 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:07,840 Maybe it would just leave. 55 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:11,360 We can run for the car, get the hell out of here. 56 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,160 And then all of a sudden these three beings come out. 57 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,920 They never touched the ground. 58 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,960 Two of them came straight to him and one went to Calvin. 59 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,400 I don't remember seeing any eyes. 60 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:29,240 They had something in about the center of what I would call a face, something that came 61 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,240 straight out. 62 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,960 Well, it's about four nose and the human being's face would be. 63 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:40,160 I didn't see any neck, it looked like it just sit down on a, on a body and it didn't have 64 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,440 hands as we have. 65 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:46,280 They had more or less like pictures or cloth. 66 00:05:46,280 --> 00:05:53,240 They grabbed him by his arm and he said from that point on he could not move his eyes, 67 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,080 he could not speak. 68 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,200 He was just totally paralyzed. 69 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,280 One of them took hold of Calvin. 70 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:05,800 I saw him go limp and found out later he had fainted. 71 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,640 It was kind of like a humming noise. 72 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,880 Just one of them made it as a human, just like that. 73 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,040 And the only one I seen that made it the rest of them I didn't hear anything because I was 74 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,560 at the point where I passed out. 75 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,800 Two of them reached for my arms, one on each side. 76 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:27,360 They took them both inside of the spacecraft and he described it as being inside of a light 77 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,360 bulb. 78 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,120 It was so bright. 79 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,400 I was alone for what seemed an eternity. 80 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,680 God help us. 81 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,080 Where is Calvin? 82 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,040 What have they done with it? 83 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,040 Then I saw him. 84 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:47,360 Something that resembled a big eye seemed to come out directly from the wall. 85 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,680 I tried to close my eyes but couldn't. 86 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,240 The eye came closer, stopped about six inches from my face. 87 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:01,000 The guy lingered there for a while and started to move down my body and returned to move 88 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,280 over my entire body. 89 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:08,880 Daddy estimated that he was in there probably 30 minutes. 90 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:15,160 He said when they bought me out they took me back to the same place they picked me up 91 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,520 and he said Calvin was standing there by the river. 92 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,600 With his arms out straight like that, just like he was staring at something. 93 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:29,720 Before I reached him I heard the zipping sound again and as I looked around I saw the blue 94 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:39,520 flashing lights and almost instantly the craft was gone. 95 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,160 Their first instinct was to get in the car and go home. 96 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,200 That's what they started heading over there. 97 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:51,000 They were talking and said we need to let the authorities know about this because it 98 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:56,680 could be somebody getting ready to invade us. 99 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,440 It was two men came into the Sheriff's Department at approximately 8.30 and then a clock. 100 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,120 They were all excited and said what climbed the walls? 101 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,120 It was terrible, crying. 102 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,240 That's actually all I know is what happened. 103 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:16,360 As far as we see and what happened I don't know. 104 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:23,120 The Sheriff's Department of Fred Dime, they felt like an interrogation more than somebody 105 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,120 you could talk to. 106 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:29,160 I didn't know what I was going to do or where I was going to go or who I was going to see 107 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,640 or who I was going to tell. 108 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,920 I didn't make it to my mind that I didn't tell nobody though. 109 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,040 Well I didn't find out about it right away. 110 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:46,480 I think it was about three days into it and I had heard something had happened. 111 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:53,120 I didn't realize the extent of it until I actually laid eyes on Calvin. 112 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,960 Back then I wanted to protect her and I didn't know how. 113 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,920 This happened October. 114 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,920 We got married November. 115 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:09,520 I didn't know how to keep it a secret because all the news media had hammered down. 116 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:15,880 Two Mississippi men say they were examined by creatures from the spaceship. 117 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,040 There's some question about how the story got out so quickly. 118 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,960 Calvin used to think that Charlie might have leaked it because for the national media to 119 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:31,880 pick up on it so quickly was pretty phenomenal. 120 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,400 Rolling Stone came to town. 121 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:42,200 I don't ever remember reading the article that they wrote. 122 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:50,400 I was twelve and I remember that weekend I think it sort of broke like headline. 123 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:56,880 I was going to a sleep favorite one of my friends house and all I remember is saying 124 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:02,320 why is your daddy putting a lumen on full in the windows and she said well I don't know 125 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:09,800 so I went and asked him and he said it's to keep the aliens from getting to our brains. 126 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,480 UFOs are here now. 127 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,080 A number of scientists take them very seriously. 128 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:19,120 The sheriff's department was getting something like two or three thousand phone calls during 129 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,120 that week. 130 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,120 Those were mostly people afraid or worried or curious. 131 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,440 It was a mess here. 132 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,160 I mean how the town was. 133 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,120 I know how the police department works with you know calls coming in. 134 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,880 I just can't imagine all the calls that they had gotten not only there but you know at 135 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:41,840 the county seeing blue lights and people were scared. 136 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,640 At first it was treated as a big joke but no one who has talked to the two men is laughing 137 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,640 now. 138 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:48,640 There's two different reactions. 139 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,400 There were people who were afraid to stay at home by themselves at night. 140 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,160 You know aluminum foil hats and things like that. 141 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,560 There were some people that dismissed it. 142 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:03,160 Most people in Pascagoula probably just discounted it and said that couldn't have happened. 143 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,720 It was just too out there to be something that possibly occurred. 144 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,720 You know the first thing someone asked me when I went to church and they were like yeah 145 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,320 well those guys drunk. 146 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,920 I knew he was telling the truth without question. 147 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:24,320 With no hard evidence to prove they were abducted the town was divided on believing 148 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,000 Charlie and Calvin's claims. 149 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:38,720 Even so their story never changed. 150 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:44,920 Daddy was always kind of jovial like to laugh and everything like that and after this happened 151 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,040 to him he kind of lost some of that. 152 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:56,800 I could just see it in his eyes and his face and his mind was always thinking and for a 153 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,440 long time I do know that he did have problems sleeping. 154 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,280 My mother she was scared to death. 155 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,280 It freaked her out. 156 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,600 I mean really it did. 157 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:07,600 He had cold sweats. 158 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:13,920 Had to change his sheets at least two and three times a night from cold sweats and he's never 159 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,880 been the same since and I have it either. 160 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:22,600 My dad of course being older and what happened to him in Korea and stuff like that he was 161 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,320 more prepared for something like that than Calvin. 162 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,360 When Calvin got out of the car first of May I had seen him since it happened four days 163 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,360 later. 164 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,840 I can't say he ran towards me but he got to me pretty quickly. 165 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,920 We embraced and hugged for the longest time. 166 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,200 I noticed his mouth was quivering. 167 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,160 Just very traumatized very unsettled. 168 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,440 You experienced a couple of breakdowns is that correct? 169 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,000 You know it was a time or two that I had to go in the hospital and count my nerves and 170 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,760 you know I still have problems with my nerves. 171 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,280 When he went to the emergency room he tried to have a place up. 172 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:07,720 He just couldn't handle it and that's why I believe daddy went off and tried to let 173 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,120 everybody know this. 174 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,600 Calvin didn't want to talk about it. 175 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:17,680 All he wanted to do at that time was forget about it. 176 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:19,040 I don't know what happened. 177 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,760 I truly don't. 178 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:28,320 I don't but after I met Mr. Parker something happened to that man. 179 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:35,800 There's not a doubt in my mind. 180 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:42,360 Do you remember the first time you saw me babing when I met you out of the car? 181 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,800 Yeah I was so glad to see you. 182 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:47,800 So glad. 183 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,960 How long we held each other. 184 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:50,960 Yeah. 185 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:57,560 I could tell he didn't want to talk to me about it which was fine. 186 00:13:57,560 --> 00:14:01,000 I didn't want to do anything that was going to upset him. 187 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:08,080 I gave him his space and I felt like in my heart that when he got ready to talk to me 188 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:14,840 about it he would. 189 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:20,640 There was a lot of UFO activity in the area in the 70s. 190 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,120 There was UFO sightings all along the Mississippi coast. 191 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,120 There was a lot of it. 192 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:34,360 A lot of some kind of activity. 193 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:40,560 The area where Calvin and Charlie fished that night was near the Pascagoula River drawbridge 194 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:55,840 which at the time was operated around the clock by a bridge tender. 195 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:00,480 One thing that really bothered me when I started looking into this case the bridge tender 196 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,400 did not see anything. 197 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:09,040 So there were two bridge tenders and you can see by one of the photographs of Charlie down 198 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:16,920 by the site you can see that bridge tender's box in the background so it was not far away. 199 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,400 Why didn't the bridge tender see it? 200 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:23,240 It was so bright if it happened right there it was a reflection on the water all these 201 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:28,120 other things why didn't the bridge tender see it? 202 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:33,440 Calvin and Charlie thought they were alone in what they saw but the spot where the encounter 203 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:40,920 occurred was not far from working shipyards and private residences and there were others 204 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:47,480 who saw something the night of October 11th. 205 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:52,640 I was at my home and I was leaving right at about dusk with my girlfriend. 206 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:57,360 When I got in my car I seen these strange lights over on this side of the river. 207 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:03,360 They were like LED lights like 6k LED lights that were so bright and LED was unheard of 208 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:08,480 then and I thought maybe it was a big plane coming in or something then wrong place for 209 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,720 a plane to be landing. 210 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:15,120 But when we got up on the bridge good then the lights got brighter and they were right 211 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,840 over the old shipyard area there on the south side of the bridge and as we got on top of 212 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,600 the bridge the lights didn't move they were just staying right there. 213 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:30,720 I happened to be outside my backyard and saw something odd that I watched for 20 minutes. 214 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:36,160 It was basically blue it appeared to have a line of lights you would say rotating around 215 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:42,160 it and it stopped and it just stayed there and it had actually lowered down to the coast 216 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,960 of the horizon. 217 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:53,120 We were stopped at a red light and I could see an object coming toward us and I couldn't 218 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,200 make out what it was. 219 00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:04,360 I said look it was so low just above the light poles but there was no engine noise and it's 220 00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:11,000 got a really bright light under it that you couldn't look at it at a long period of time. 221 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:17,640 The radio started acting crazy and we were freaking out and we were saying what is this 222 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,040 what in the world is that. 223 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,800 And then the only way I can describe it is it shot off to the north of the pier really 224 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,800 high rate of speed just like it was gone. 225 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:34,560 We didn't know what it was either all of it came together in the same time frame same 226 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,400 evening we didn't know what we'd seen but we we seen the lights from it. 227 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:44,600 I headed back in house and I told my parents and they told me they was like well you know 228 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,880 I wouldn't tell anybody about this they're gonna think you're crazy. 229 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,600 That was the way things were looked on in that day. 230 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,000 Everybody was saying well I'm not telling anybody they won't believe us you know and 231 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:05,120 they'll make fun of us and we kind of made a pact that nobody was gonna say anything 232 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:06,840 about it. 233 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:17,640 I think people were nervous and worried about what someone else would think about them. 234 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,000 Whether they believed it or not it was taboo. 235 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:30,600 They couldn't relate it to being in the Bible or being a part of something that God created. 236 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:36,040 Daddy was a very religious man he was raised that way by his mom and dad and daddy raised 237 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,520 me the same exact way. 238 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:43,960 He turned to his faith because he knew that God's not gonna put on anything on him that 239 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,120 he can't handle. 240 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:53,320 I certainly believe in God and I think that God in all of his greatness didn't only create 241 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:58,480 this little wall here he created all those walls out there. 242 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:04,960 There's been some witnesses that's come forth after the fight way after the fight. 243 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:13,160 I'm not so sure that people much care anymore about what someone says about them. 244 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:21,720 Who we to say God didn't create something else out there. 245 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:27,720 I remember the Tonight Show and other national media that picked up on the event. 246 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:35,040 I mean the story is an amazing story that two average guy shipyard workers fish for 247 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:40,640 a little while after they got off work and all of a sudden what happened apparently changed 248 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,600 their lives. 249 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:48,760 After the story broke Charlie and Calvin were flooded by media requests. 250 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:54,840 News outlets and TV shows were eager to have the men share their experience and profit 251 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:55,840 from it. 252 00:19:56,120 --> 00:20:03,680 Daddy appeared on several shows he was on Johnny Carson the cavit and to tell the truth. 253 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,920 Number one could you did you have the power to resist or to restrain yourself or was 254 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,200 you sort of hypnotizing? 255 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,720 I didn't have any power to resist no. 256 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:23,680 So will the real Charles Hickson please stand up. 257 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:30,320 There was money to be made off a UFO story and Charlie in particular didn't miss an 258 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:39,240 opportunity to recount the abduction. 259 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:45,640 Charles Hickson is preparing to tell his story on stage before an audience or a price. 260 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,960 Hickson has teamed up with a group of hypnotists and psychics for a series of personal appearances. 261 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,880 The price of tickets is five and ten dollars. 262 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,600 When he's not busy making personal appearances or appearing on radio and television talk 263 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:04,320 shows or promoting his record Hickson works on the book he's writing about his experience. 264 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:10,920 My dad has been all over the country on interviews and stuff like that and I want you to know 265 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:16,080 that he did not profit from this by any at all. 266 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:24,880 All he would ask these people is to pay him what he would lose in a day's work. 267 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:30,360 Charlie I lost confidence in him because we agreed. 268 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,440 Me and him weren't going to tell nobody. 269 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,120 I felt like he told the world. 270 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:40,760 So I didn't have nobody I didn't feel like down here. 271 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,640 I had a lot of people that I didn't feel like I had anybody I could talk to. 272 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,720 The news media was just everywhere. 273 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,520 It started to get to daddy. 274 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:57,600 He was being pulled this way, pulled that way and anybody watching to tell the truth 275 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:04,120 they could tell and look at his demeanor and tell that it took a lot out of him. 276 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:07,000 He wasn't the same Charlie. 277 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,640 Mr. Hickson was out front and very visible after this happened. 278 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:19,800 Mr. Parker had significant emotional problems as a result of the incident and sort of shunned 279 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,800 the publicity. 280 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,880 I think he was struggling to comprehend it himself. 281 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,400 He was questioning himself mentally. 282 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,000 I don't know how you couldn't. 283 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:37,640 He wanted to stay out of the public eye because you know you never know how people will treat 284 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,560 you after something like this. 285 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:48,600 I do remember Mr. Calvin telling me that he was at a funeral here local and somebody 286 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:56,880 recognized his name and came up to him and said are you Calvin Parker and he said yes 287 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,120 but he said he did not hang around. 288 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:08,160 He said there was someone mourning someone being gone and he said he and his wife just 289 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,040 got in the car and left and went home. 290 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,120 Several of them followed us out to the car even so we got away from them and we were 291 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:23,560 on the way home and shortly after that in 2018 that's when he started opening up to 292 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,480 me about it. 293 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:32,240 I knew whatever it was was traumatizing but I didn't realize the extent. 294 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:40,880 You know something coming from the unknown and they have you and they're poking and 295 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:48,360 probing and I mean you don't know if you're going to live or die. 296 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:55,400 I don't think anyone really knew what to think back then. 297 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,920 The ones that say they saw the lights said they were scared. 298 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,800 They were scared that if they came out and admitted to seeing it that they'd be shown 299 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:06,800 too. 300 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,400 Did you believe it immediately? 301 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,400 I'm not sure. 302 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,400 I probably not. 303 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:18,280 I mean I was young at the time but the secret recording of the two characters involved that 304 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:24,520 went a long way to letting people know that this was a very possibly an actual incident. 305 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:34,880 I guess they really put a form on this one. 306 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:41,640 In early 2020 a recording surfaced that to many added credibility to Charlie and Calvin's 307 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,360 story. 308 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:50,040 The night they reported the abduction, Haska Gula police officers recorded the men without 309 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,040 their knowledge. 310 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,600 The sheriff put Charlie and Calvin back in that room by themselves. 311 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:10,080 He put a tape in a drawer or up under the desk somehow he had installed it. 312 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,320 They put these two guys back in that room by themselves and left them. 313 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,480 That would have been an opportune time for them to say gosh you think they believed us. 314 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:45,960 We need to get our story straight but there was no change in the story. 315 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:53,760 You could hear the fear in their voices and the sincerity and especially Calvin said you 316 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,000 could tell he was scared half dead. 317 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:05,200 They were absolutely convinced that what had happened to them was reality. 318 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:12,280 Years later Calvin claimed to have been visited again and unlike before Calvin shared his 319 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,760 second encounter freely in an effort to work through his experience. 320 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,840 One of your thoughts today is that I'm just magnitude having to. 321 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:27,040 I am more mentally stable now than what I've ever been in my whole life and I can deal 322 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:32,520 with this in a more mature manner. 323 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,440 Talking about it kind of gave them a little relief. 324 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:42,600 You know it can't be good for anybody to case something stored up that long. 325 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:48,360 There's probably some that still think he's crazy but you know what the great thing is 326 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:50,640 he don't care anymore. 327 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:56,000 Honestly I think telling his story sort of set him free. 328 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:03,240 Charlie Hixon also claimed to have been visited a second time in 1974. 329 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:09,320 He was sitting under a tree eating an orange one day and he said he just got this feeling 330 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,200 something was watching him and he said he turned around a look and there was two of 331 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:20,040 them standing right behind him and they never came any closer and he said it was just like 332 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:29,960 a radio that turned on in his head that we mean you know harm and we will be back. 333 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:37,400 He said all of a sudden they were gone just boom that fast. 334 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,000 My daddy was one of the first that was captured by UFO. 335 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:49,120 He stuck to his word the day he died it never changed under anything and that's good enough 336 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:52,120 for me. 337 00:27:52,120 --> 00:28:04,320 You can't live a normal life you always got this in the back of your head. 338 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,200 She slipped through this and I know it's been hard on her. 339 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:15,480 She hadn't got much credit for putting up with me through the whole thing. 340 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:21,440 Really I didn't do her right because I waited a long time to talk to her about it. 341 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,840 Eighteen years. 342 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,240 No more than that. 343 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,240 More than 18 darling. 344 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,240 Yeah. 345 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,080 How do you tell somebody that you love something like that? 346 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,600 Or they think you're an idiot or something? 347 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:54,160 This is the marker that was dedicated in my father and Calvin Parker across from where 348 00:28:54,160 --> 00:29:04,400 the actual incident happened and I'm very proud of it and it's a legacy to him is the 349 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,640 way I see it. 350 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:13,680 My dad was to me a super super man and I miss him dearly. 351 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:19,960 The marker brought healing not only for a community that I think at the time didn't 352 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:29,320 believe but especially for Mr. Calvin so we laid that out and we made that happen. 353 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,080 Mr. Calvin was blown away. 354 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:40,320 It felt real good to have a city to acknowledge it and I thought it was a big honor and I 355 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:47,360 told one Ed when I died just got her my ashes right around the marker somewhere because 356 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:54,520 I have a marker there and people will be able to come visit. 357 00:29:54,520 --> 00:30:03,480 Mr. Charlie's family was there as well and they got a chance to talk about their life 358 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:10,560 growing up with the whole scenario. 359 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:18,200 The experience of Charles Hixon and Calvin Parker is so unique that it cannot be ignored 360 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,160 as part of our our culture here. 361 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:29,960 On Fridays are events that are held in the downtown area, bands, food trucks and one 362 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:35,880 of the Fridays is dedicated to the alien abduction. 363 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,920 I believe as a city we need to celebrate that story. 364 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:49,640 Now I have you know the the blow up green ones. 365 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:56,760 As tall as him I've got actually one taller than him that we have to sort of tie you know 366 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,720 to one of the poles. 367 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,320 There's one in just about every business. 368 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,200 But this is my prize. 369 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:14,120 This is just the cover of the first book that Mr. Parker wrote. 370 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:20,480 I have bigger ones that he signed and only a few people got one and I happened to be 371 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:26,360 one of them so I was very proud of that. 372 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,360 This is in the 70s, early 70s. 373 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,680 Times were different. 374 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,680 I think people were open minded now. 375 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:41,360 The bottom line is they were a couple of shipyard workers that did not ask for this and that 376 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,280 it just occurred and have no reason why it occurred. 377 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,440 But I think it's very good that they both have been able to come forward and say yes 378 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:56,120 this happened yes we were part of it believe it or not it happened. 379 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,440 I don't not believe I could not rule that out. 380 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:06,520 You know when you think about it and this is probably why Pascugula reacted like it did. 381 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,440 You think about it. 382 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,200 It will rock your world. 383 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:18,240 If you really believe that it happened then it should change your whole life. 384 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,640 It certainly changed theirs. 385 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,560 My daddy he always wondered why he was the chosen one. 386 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:34,720 He didn't understand why they would want to chose him as just an old country boy. 387 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,040 He thought about that a lot. 388 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,040 I was going to lie about it. 389 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,360 There's some kind of hopes that for sure come clean. 390 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:48,280 You don't want to go meet your maker and have all that on you. 391 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,600 I really wasn't planning on it. 392 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:56,520 I figured the Lord has all his reasons for doing things. 393 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:02,360 That if it's good enough for him it's good enough for me. 394 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,640 Who knows what really happened on that river all those years ago. 395 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:13,280 But for Charlie and Calvin and many others in Pascugula there is no question. 396 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:21,760 You look in space at night time if you get away from life you can see thousands of stars. 397 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:27,400 As far as we can tell right now they ain't down the end of it yet. 398 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,760 So you can't tell me there's not something out there somewhere. 399 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,880 My daddy believed that. 400 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,040 I know there's other worlds out there with life on it and someday everyone will know 401 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,560 that to be a fact without any doubt.